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-T. rex vs Triceratops- by arvalis -T. rex vs Triceratops- by arvalis
I was lucky enough to be asked to do this for Sideshow Collectibles based on their T. rex and their Triceratops statues, which are wonderful by the way. I had the opportunity to try a lot of new techniques here because the subject matter was pretty comfort zone and I think it really paid off because I learned a ton. Even though I spent a billion hours on the main guys, I think I'm most pleased with the tiny little lizard(chamops) in the bottom right corner. How dare they have the gall to fight on top of his log. I'd also like to imagine the T. rex is pushing a fart out of the trike. 

This was done as a limited edition print run for Sideshow Collectibles, which you can preorder here www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibl… 

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:iconthebatmeme368:
TheBatmeme368 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2017  New Deviant Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beautiful, I especially love the subtle, but vibrant colours on the skull of the Triceratops.
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Pherigo Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2017
Absolutely beautiful work as always RJ, you're always impressing me with piece after piece. Gotta love the comments sections too, apparently science never changes, it's set in stone after all.
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RaptorWings Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017  New Deviant Student General Artist
Stunning!  This is the best scaly rex I've ever seen:)
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:iconnaomi-anna-jackson87:
naomi-anna-jackson87 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017  New Deviant Hobbyist Writer
I just keep looking all over the place because there's so much going on everywhere! I love this! Plus, I'm a HUGE dinosaur nerd.
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CharlottaBavholm Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
That texture work is so impressive *_*
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shellz-art Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2017  Professional General Artist
I love the little fellow in the corner :heart:
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jzilla-studio Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
Awesome Dinosaur Battle!!!!!!😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😉😉😉😉😉👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
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timelordeternal Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017
I hope Triceratops wins this fight 
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Blomman87 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
Kinda find it interesting from everything feather brigade to realise it might not have been covered in feathers.  Anyway no matter wich path it will be i find it stunning and great job. Wonder if the null hypothetis have its place after all.  I hope the field find a bloody good specimen so we can end this argument that has been ongoing for so long now and with all the later generations kids jumping on trey the explainers " i know everything slayer train. 
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DovahkiinHU3BR Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
Great art, but I doubt it would effectively seal the teeth with this "design" of lips. Maybe making some upper lips would work
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arvalis Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
I didn't design it, it was designed by Jorge Blanco for his sideshow statue.
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DovahkiinHU3BR Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017
Sorry for ths misunderstanding.

PS: Did you really make a blur effect look like feathers?
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:iconarvalis:
arvalis Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017
there are no feathers here 
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:icondovahkiinhu3br:
DovahkiinHU3BR Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2017
I know. This is why I am confused (there are no feathers but you managed to make it look like if there were feathers there)
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:iconarvalis:
arvalis Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2017
I think you are seeing what you want to see. It doesn't look at all like feathers to me. 
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DovahkiinHU3BR Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2017
Well now that I know there are no feathers they do not look like feathers
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mynameisnotdave23 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017  Student Artist
Feathers or not, Tyrannosaurus Must have been an awe-inspiring animal nonetheless.         
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Timurlengia Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Has Saurian decided whether they are going to make Tyrannosaurus scaly? Or are they just going to reduce the feathers a bit?
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:iconarvalis:
arvalis Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
You'll see soon
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KaprosuchusDragon Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2017
how soon?
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Scholarly-Cimmerian Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2017
Absolutely breathtaking :D
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:iconijreid:
ijreid Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find your lack of proper Triceratops scalation disturbing Great artistic style and composure
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beezlechub Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
WOW. Its has a really good "traditional art look" that just makes me feel warm inside. Do more stuff like this for sure!
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HSandUTartits413 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
roar roar i'm a dinosaur!
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Highspeed0516 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017
rawr
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:iconmmkaay:
Mmkaay Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Student Digital Artist
How do you paint like a god?
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T-Domesticus Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  New Deviant Hobbyist
Fantastic work as always man - figuring to purchase this bad boy sometime.
Haven't made an account til now, but I've known you and your work for quite some time - here's your well-deserved watch :) (Smile) 
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Heilos Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Professional General Artist
Damn. I love this, but taking the time to read the comments, i'm really bummed out about T. Rex being far more likely to not have feathers anymore. The Saurian design (and other takes on a feathered Rex) were my favs, so i'm sad to know it's gonna be changed down the line, but appreciate you going with current evidence.  Either way this piece is fantastic as always. I like this more texture heavy style you chose for this piece. :)
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Dinopithecus Featured By Owner Edited Oct 30, 2017
I didn't think that looking up accurate Tyrannosaurus depictions on DeviantArt would lead me to this. A new depiction of it by arvalis, and it's hunting a Triceratops, no less! Instant fave.

Not only does the artwork look stunning, but I'd imagine that knocking a Triceratops (or really, just about any prey item) down and pinning it with a clawed foot, which the Tyrannosaurus seems to be doing in this piece, could have been at least one way to subdue and kill it. So it's cool to see that here.

Keep up the good work.
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m0osegirlhunter Featured By Owner Edited Oct 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
nice!
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Revan005 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2017
Awesome!:D
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Carcascan Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I really love the painterly style on this one, usually your works are super smooth and well-blended, but I think the painterly and visible brush strokes add so much more to the chaotic scene. Great work!
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arvalis Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2017
There are no feathers and also rex probably did not have feathers unfortunately. Its a big bummer.
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TheWatcherofWorlds Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2017
GODAMNIT I WISH WE COULD FIND DIRECT EVIDENCE ON THIS MATTER
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:iconlediblock2:
Lediblock2 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2017
We do, actually - T-rex scale impressions, as well as ones from its cousins.
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:iconthewatcherofworlds:
But that still makes so much debate... was it all scale or half or most feathered... possibly not all scales, they have too close connections to just loose them at rex

I JUST WISHED I COULD GO KNOCK A REX DOWN ON A MUD BANK AND HAVE THAT PERSERVED!

btw is this the postcard sized one I heard of in the Trey video
or a new one?
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Lediblock2 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2017
Word of advice with Trey: He's full of shit.
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:iconthewatcherofworlds:
Well damn... 

shit is a strong word
And he might just appear like the last time and that'd be awkward

I think you were there... but I was the one saying he's shit
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:iconlediblock2:
Lediblock2 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2017
I don't give a damn - he's an asshole who's had it too good for too long.
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TheInjohnimusRex Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Professional Artist
Why do you say that? The patch of skin recently discovered that came from the rex is one tiny piece of skin that came from a part of the rex's body that probably didn't have feathers anyway. It really sucks how all these JP suck ups are spamming online articles about how rex was a scaly monster because of this one tiny patch of flesh, which, if Tyrannosaurus did have feathers, probably didn't have feathers anyways. Also, feathers and scales act way differently. You don't see massive ostriches overheating on the blistering savannah, because feathers help to thermoregulate both through heat and cold. Let's not forget Yutyrannnus either. Unless we find a full imprint of T. rex's back and/or sides. there's not really any evidence that it didn't have feathers. Also I know my name is dumb I made it when I was like 9 so just ignore it.
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Blomman87 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
Exactly wich piece do reffering to now? Cause i know there is plenty of them out there wich indicates scales. 
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arvalis Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017
As it was described to me by Scott Hartman, animals over 3 tons do not received benefits from feathers and actively become detrimental. Yutyrannus falls well within that boundary, T. rex does not. Also unless there is a patch of feathers just on the back of the torso, they cannot really be anywhere else. My experts lean towards no feathers unfortunately. 
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arvalis Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2017
I guess you didn't look at the rest of my gallery and have no idea who I am. Many of those videos you linked have my feathered dinosaur artwork. Trey The Explainer is an acquaintance of mine as well. My feathered T. rex illustration is the one of the wikipedia page for T. rex. What I'm saying to you is that there has been new evidence and study this year that makes it very unlikely that T. rex had feathers. This is not to say that all tyrannosaurs did not have feathers, just rex. The experts I personally conferred with are Scott Hartman and Mark Witton, also Tom Holtz and Tom Parker also both believe T. rex did not have feathers. Those are all the most trusted experts in the actually field of paleontology as far as I'm concerned. 

Not all theropods had feathers, and its incredibly unlikely that anything with a mass over 3 tons had them. So much to my chagrin, the days of feathered big boy rex is behind me. Please understand that I think Jurassic World is almost intentionally hurting the public's view of dinosaurs and certainly all dromaeosaurs had feathers. I am in no way a jurassic park fan boy, I just follow the science. Maybe next time you come at someone with such ignorance, at least make sure your information is up to date. 
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Paleofreak666 Featured By Owner Edited Oct 31, 2017  New Deviant
It's perfectly fine, we all make mistakes.

Ok so he didn't mean that T.rex was the only tyrannosaurid that lacked feathers, what he meant was that all large tyrannosaurids (and all massive theropods in general) lacked feathers. The reason why has to do with thermoregulation, as any sufficiently large theropod, say 3 tons or over in mass as RJ said, would easily overheat with a thick fluffy coat. Not only this, but there is actually a quite extensive record of tyrannosaurid scales from all across the body. My friend Joshua Ballze created this chart of known tyrannosaurid scale impressions with the help of paleontologists Thomas Carr and Philip Currie:

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As you can see, there really isn't any room for feathers to hide except for the dorsum, but even that is doubtful given the nature of reptilian scales. There is a possibility that these scales might be reticula, or scales secondarily evolved from feathers, like on the feet of modern birds. If that is the case, then sparse fuzz like the hair on elephants might be possible. But of course that is an untested hypothesis at the current moment, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Paleofreak666 Featured By Owner Edited Oct 30, 2017  New Deviant
You know how ignorant you have to be of basic paleontology to be saying that?

Yes it is true that more basal Tyrannosauoids such as Yutyrannus and Dilong did in fact possess a body-wide covering of filamentous feathers (Xu et al. 2004, 2012), but the fossil evidence that T. rex and it's closer relatives lacked feathery integument has been piling up immensely since the beginning of this year. Prominent dinosaur paleontologists such as Thomas Carr, Philip Currie, Peter Larson, and Robert Bakker have published papers on the extensive record of skin impressions from species like Tyrannosaurus, Tarbosaurus, Daspletosaurus, and Albertosaurus, and they all indicate that derived Tyrannosaurids had a uniform and body-wide covering of scales (Bell et al. 2017, Carr et al. 2017). Also, how dare you accuse RJ Palmer of being ignorant of the fossil evidence! He actually did create a wonderful reconstruction of Tyrannosaurus with a full covering of feathers back in 2016: Tyrannosaurus rex-2016 
But the evidence has changed, and now our paleoart is changing with it whether you like it or not. So get your facts straight before accusing very scientifically inclined paleoartists of just being jurassic park fanboys.

Bell et al. 2017 "Tyrannosauroid integument reveals conflicting patterns of gigantism and feather evolution" rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.or…
Carr et al. 2017 "A new tyrannosaur with evidence for anagenesis and crocodile-like facial sensory system"
www.nature.com/articles/srep44…  
Mark Witton: Revenge of the scaly Tyrannosaurus
markwitton-com.blogspot.com/20…

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