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So the last one was met with some really tough criticism. As the type of guy i am, i went back to the drawing board immediately the next day. I really thought him out more as a character, basically threw my all into this one.

I brought a phoenix pattern into his midsection, as the character is a reincarnation. He is adorned in decorative fabrics, but fails to keep them in nice condition as they are all frayed. This is a symbol for he is very focused and determined, so much so that nothing will stop him from achieving his goals. The armor is incredibly old, yet shows little wear as the armor was made for a god. The fire and stone pattern on the pouch symbolizes his passion and steadfast commitment to his quest. Yes he is primarily srsfayse, but thats where Corrina comes in to poke fun at his stoic nature. Also yes his scythe is realistically sized, it used to be a farm tool. His face is more rounded out, guess he looks more like me now. Art imitates life as they say.

Hope you guys like this one better.


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ArvalisİRJ Palmer
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makey-suu Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
will u teach me plz how u make your characters so real? ;_;
I'm in a project with my friend, we want to make comics (a good one), and I'm the painter.. would u plz give me some advices? I think I've fainted. 
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Frostgore Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Holey-moley
I saw all the pics above of Arvalis.
Dayum, how have you improved o_o
I mean, the diference is as clear as crystal and yet the one from 2005 is still impressive.
Good job.
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ksavvyx3 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nicely done. Your anatomy skills amaze me, as always. :) I really like the creativity and detail you put into the outfit, and I also enjoyed your addition of the past drawings. :D Love it!
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YoruNoKatana Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
whoa. the improvement over the years is amazing~ one day i hope to see such improvement from myself!
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DeadCobra Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011
Cool
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Zenoshi30 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2011
Epic :D
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ArchmageDB Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011
The "made for a god" part raises a worry that this character is a bit of a Gary Stu, but I'll keep my criticism to the artistic parts. Scythes do not work as weapons, no matter what anime tells you. Real-world scythes are designed with special handholds specifically to make them easy to swing, and even then are only good for cutting immobile grain. If you're trying to cut them with the inner edge, you'd need to overextend or move around at a really awkward angle. Try it with a prop and see, then remember that your target is likely to be moving around as well. There is a reason that when real-world scythes were converted into polearms, they would reattach the blade at a 90-degree angle like a glaive. You might want to consider that if it's a former farm tool. If you're using it as a pick, trying to penetrate with the tip, it's considerably too long in both blade and haft to give effective control in that area. Furthermore, a proper war pick has a short, stout, narrow spike, designed to be sturdy enough to pierce mail and plate, a thick, sharpened-at-the-edge blade like the one you used is thoroughly ineffective in that regard.

Now, on to the armor. You don't have a breastplate, but you did armor the arms and legs. If you've armored your legs, you won't be moving as quickly, and a weapon balanced so heavily towards the head...and further balanced to one side to such an extent (the aforementioned long blade) is absolutely terrible for blocking. It's the worst of both worlds. The groin, torso, thighs (a good stab there will make you bleed out) and one arm are entirely unprotected. I can see not wearing a helmet as a stylistic choice, so we'll ignore that. Most blows strike the torso and the thighs, even if he is an expert at blocking, that would be all he gets a chance to do in combat because of how WIDE the unprotected area is. I realize you're likely invested in the final fantasy-esque uncovered look, so I won't recommend a breastplate. Look up a Jack-of-Plates, Brigandine, or Lamellar armor. Metal plates concealed beneath leather, looking surprisingly like a normal garment. Minimal alteration to your look, plenty of protection.

Next, originality. You keep talking about making things look interesting, but scythes and impractical armor are all over Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts type games. That said, the purpose of armor and weapons is to protect you from having your guts spilled, not to look interesting. There are plenty of examples of interesting-looking wargear out there that isn't completely and utterly impractical, which is my final estimation of this piece.
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011
Dont know who posted this shitty picture on 4chan, but its not great. Im aware of the practicality and realism of real suits of armor and scythes, hence why its a fantasy. There is a point where practicality and style need to go there separate ways. I have a scythe and ive swung it around, as well as a straight arm pole scythe with no handles. Would they make a a weapon great for battle, surely not, but they make a fairly interesting and unique weapon that few other characters utilize. I know its not a breast plate, but he wearing a thick padded tunic with chain mail under it in the picture. I am currently experimenting with different designs and leather chest pieces [link] . I fall in the school of thought where if something looks interesting or cool, its worth pursuing. Then just try to make it feel somewhat believable, but it is clearly in no way intended to be a real person. Realistic fantasy is still a fantasy ;p.
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JenkoFilajeff Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Meh.

Also, someone was posting your shitpic on 4chan, asking for an opinion on your armor, because you seem to think that generic looking armor is lame.

Then why do you draw it generic? The armor doesn't make sense for someone with ...a scythe? He looks like a character from the Fable games, or some anime.

Also your friend who wrote on 4chan said you are resistent to critique or opinions that arent very positive about your work. Is it true?
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011
At this point most armor in fantasy setting is generic in one way or another. Mostly just looking for an interesting shape in my opinion. Though you arent wrong, this design blows monkey dick. I am working on new designs for the character here [link] . Also, why would a character with a scythe not need armor? When using hand to hand weapons in a fantasy setting, armor seems pretty useful for most people. As far as resistance t criticism, sure i might get a bit stubborn. Though generally i only am resistant to crits that i find silly or superfluous, like "he needs armor on his chest because i want it". I have been guilty of only really taking to heart artists that i respect and admire.
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JenkoFilajeff Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Did you just tell me that i can stick my critique up my ass? Because it looks like it.

You didn't even think about my post, maybe i should have put some compliments in it. After looking at your other pictures you are not bad, but you need to fucking polish the motherfucking shit out of everything.

And what is a heart artist? Do you mean artist by heart? I am an artist by heart. Maybe i should buy some respect in the gun store.

Don'tcha have some medieval nerds in your area who practice swordfighting? Study and ask them about armor and modify it.

I know you don't respect me or my opinion, i could propably tell you that i studied art and illustration or drew more naked people than you will ever see on an average day at a stripclub and it wouldn't help. I could put it more friendly and humble and you would still be " a bit stubborn".
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Incai Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow chill and shut the hell up.
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JenkoFilajeff Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You deserve the slowpoke medal
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Incai Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You deserve a kick up the ass ;)
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JenkoFilajeff Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
For what? Trolling someone arrogant enough posting his shit on 4chan months, if not years ago and getting the shitstorm over his head because he outed himself in some pretentious manner?

Let it die and leave me alone.
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Incai Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh I didn't know the details o.o what exactly happened?
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011
lol whut? Im not sure what youre after here. You asked me if im ever resistant to criticism, and i responded honestly. Would you rather i just have said, "no, im perfect"? Now i dont mind a troll every now and then, but youre going about this all wrong sir. That is, if you dont mind my criticism.
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Mavrickindigo Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
What's that bit sticking up on his left shoulder for?
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011
It serves as an interesting design element as well as a way to deflect an incoming attack towards the neck or head.
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Mavrickindigo Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I could see in the heat of battle someone swinging their sword and getting it caught on there maybe.

But what about attacks toward your head on the other side of your body where there isn't armor?
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Chaostouched Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2010  Student General Artist
It s great from all aspects. Lovely colour, very nice pose and very suitable for it s concept.Congrats! Be proud!!
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SpiffyMai Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2010  Student General Artist
Fatty Fatty two-by-four couldn't get through the kitchen door.
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HayleGor Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2010  Student Interface Designer
He's looking a little feminine in this pic, his chin is a little soft

Maybe when you've done enough of these you could make a book like Artgem did on their character (Pepper I think it was?)
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Hacketo Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2010  Student Digital Artist
SUCH A PROgress
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Cyantica Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2010
boah o.O <3
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Drianko Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You sir, are quite the artist, love to see the character grow into this manly piece of bad ass, the face is flawless gives him the perfect "Nordic Warrior look" please let this be the final delivery, i think you topped him
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sleepywolfe Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
This is some really awesome lineless art! The background and colors all flow together seamlessly! As much as this is lovely and more realistic, I still like his 2009 version better xD But awesome job still developing your character more
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T-SLA Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
Great improvement!
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Kera-KeraNgalam Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2010
*A* awesome,,,XDDD
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Rocky-O Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
This is a friggin' awesome character. Totally feels soul calibur-ish! Great work placing him in an environment, as well! :3
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sjbernhisel Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010  Professional General Artist
Looking much better, kid. (: Way to take critiques to heart and learn from it.
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PretzelRum Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Love it!!Truly realistic...
Arvalis looks keep changing every time...:P
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Margenal Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Hm, it's true when i began to look more attentively on character designing for making my own i fastly got sick of the slick, pure and juvenile eastern one. Even if there is good ideas it's a true hellway to find scratches, dirt, the smallest scar or a miraculously person older than 25. So yeah western designers are less "flamboyant" but in a way there is more depht and realism. Personally the first witcher game is one of the best example of a perfect mix between realism and fantasy...
Seeing your last version is a good show of mixed influences, but in the good way. The whole design is coherent and has its kind of... "story" within but i guess you should worn out a little more the clothes to make the contrasting more with the god-origin armor. I totally dig for the weapon but about the top i prefer the old version, but i guess it's maybe because i don't really like stuffed leather :p As for the face... I agree for the round shape, using reality for inspiration is a good idea even if angles can be more expressive...

Congratulations!
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anime234dotcom Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
the change and development of arvalis over the years is soo awesome and i think its thats its awsome that you stuck with one character for sooooooo long...:)..PROPS for that..and i love your coloring...:):):):)

did you ever make a coloring tut?
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arvalis Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010
Yeah its pretty cool to get to see how much he has developed over such a long period of time. Actually i made a tutorial quite a while ago now, its a bit different from what i do now, but it should still be helpful. Here you go: [link]
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anime234dotcom Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG i never even noticed/saw this tut before...he is sooo creepy:cries:...haha
but thanks!!......im going to keep it!:p
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Gorrem Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Hey! Came out great, your use of color is really improving.
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2010
Thanks a ton dude, that really means a lot.
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Razer-Athane Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2010   Filmographer
Duuuude, great job! <3
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jellyCAKES Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2010
The fact that you've turned him into you is just creepy. I also like the older designs. In terms of technique and style though, nice painting.
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2010
Its not an intentional thing. Very often, the more realistic you get, the more your characters take on aspects of you. It only makes sense as thats what we see in the mirror everyday, i can bring up a couple very prominent examples. Of course you like the older design, because it looked like a soulcalibur fan character, which is the only thing you seem to like.
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jellyCAKES Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2010
Well you talked of it as if it was intentional, giving him armbands like you, facial features, etc. So that's what I assumed. I'm not trying to insult you anything.
And what? Man, I hate Soulcalibur "fan characters", dont know where you got that idea from. No wait, actually, I think I know :P But really, I liked the other design because it really did look godly. Right now he kinda looks like a farmer boy but in a way it's a more realistic design which I know is what you're going for.
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2010
He wasnt supposed to look godly, hes supposed to look more like a farm guy, which is where he lived. He gets more godly towards the end of the story. I happen to recall you designing several soulcalibur fan characters. Also btw, did that drak guy die?
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jellyCAKES Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2010
Yeah I know :) Just saying, I, personally, prefer it. In terms of your aim for his design though, you've definitely acheived it. Also, I dont remember... And Drak? I have NO idea.
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Arcturion Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2010
Cripes, that's a helluva lot of improvement in just 5 short years! I'm jealous! XD
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Ruth-Tay Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2010  Professional Filmographer
It's only getting better and better, when will it stop? I think never.
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Ruth-Tay Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2010  Professional Filmographer
O yes I forgot to mension, iff you'll ever come to europe some day, which I would love. You should really have to check out museums with armory, weapons and tools, I've been to some in scotland and I've seen some really weird and cool looking stuff, that I've never thought of before. It's very inspiring.

I'm sure they'll have that in the states too, but if you in they area where they actually found the stuff that was made hundreds somethimes even thousands of years ago, it just gives you a weird feeling. A good one.

In your mind you can kind of see the people that used it back then, and place it in the environment, you are in that moment.
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Dude this is amazing. Just the amount that you've progressed in my absence makes me want to try harder. I love the strong pose and the amazing details you're worked into this. I honestly like the grittier style more, but all in all, I'd say this feels more like you. I can see it in the strokes.

And from one nerd to another, maybe you can think about adding some weights to the scythe for harder hits and intimidation. Not a critique, just an idea lol :P

I really need to hop on my characters >.>
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CorvusCorax-Oculus Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2010
Is there a story behind the bracelet that he wears? I noticed it in the 2009 one, that it was slotted through his glove. It just looked interesting and that there might be a story behind it, I was just curious as to whether there actually is, haha.
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arvalis Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2010
Honestly no, mostly i just wear two bracelets and a watch on one wrist. So i thought, why not let arvalis have a sweet bracelet? ;p
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